18 August 2009

Are Colorado Republicans Crazy?

Southerners and Republicans believe all sorts of absurd things that almost no one else believes. Daily Kos has been covering this broader theme for months, most recently expanding upon it as an exponent of the conspiracy theory "birther" movement that thinks President Obama was not born in the United States (a flatly false claim that has been widely rebutted). It ties in closely with the notion of the Republican party as a predominantly Southern regional party.

Republicans in the Northeast has virtually vanished from high elected office, and many of those that succeed in getting elected do so because they are RINOs, Republicans in name only.

What about Colorado Republicans?

According to a blog of the Public Policy Polling firm, "43% of Colorado Republicans think Barack Obama was not born in the United States, 33% think he was, and 24% are unsure."

WeatherDem at Square State thinks the Republicans polled are simply being contrarian and dishonest in their answers.

I'm not convinced that this is true. The Colorado results are actually more conspiracy ridden than the national average response for Republicans in a Research 2000 poll, but Republicans, and Southerners, show similar trends. See Virginia and North Carolina.

Do you believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States of America?

---- Yes No Not sure
Dem 93 4 3
Rep 42 28 30
Ind 83 8 9

A continuing series of Research 2000 polls sponsored by Daily Kos (most recently this one) have revealed the same pattern, that Republicans and the South are deeply out of touch with basic indisputable facts, on a wide variety of issues.

Indeed, unlike WeatherDem, I think that realizing that there is a large minority of the population that has crazy ideas is a pivotal idea to making a lot of American politics make sense.


Michael Malak said...

It's not up to us to prove that Obama is not a natural born citizen. It is up to him to show his "long form" birth certificate -- if not to us, then at least to the FEC or Congressional leaders. It's a simple matter, yet he has spent $1.5 million in legal fees to resist it.

Ousting Obama would just cause race riots, and there would be no benefit, since his policies are not significantly different than Bush or any of Obama's potential replacements -- Biden, McCain, or Palin. I.e., they all ignore the Constitution as you have pointed out.

The "birthers" aren't crazy for asking for a "long form" birth certificate. They're crazy for thinking any one of the potential replacements are any different from Obama, and they're suicidal for wanting to cause race riots.

Andrew Oh-Willeke said...

The 1961 birth certificate is available here and here.

Contemporanous birth announcements in two separate Hawaii newspapers confirm this fact.

A document relied upon by those concerned about the matter that purports to be a Kenyan birth certificate is an obvious fraud and has been widely debunked.

Obama would also have been a natural born citizen by virtue of his mother's citizenship, even if he had contrafactually not been born in Hawaii.

The matter is established beyond any reasonable doubt. Your concerns are misplaced.

Michael Malak said...

A news source more mainstream than WND distinguishes between the "certificate of live birth", which has been release, and the "long form birth certificate", which has not been released.